(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[20/300 Canadian]
GN[Hannover Messeturnier, Brett 1]PW[Rudi Verhage ]PB[Matthias Terwey]WR[5d]BR[4d]DT[2009-04-25]EV[Messeturnier Hannover]RO[Runde 3]PC[http://www.hannover-go.de/messeturnier_ausschreibung.html]US[Uwe Schmidt]C[joachim [?\]: Ah, interessante Paarung
joachim [?\]: gibt es irgendwo ergebnisse zu sehen?
Messeturn [-\]: Nein, leider noch nicht. Ich versuche das bis morgen nachzuholen.
hangbeamb: Ergebnisse gibt es bisher noch nirgends zu sehen, du koenntest aber vorbeikommen :)
hangbeamb: Zwischenergebnisse stelle ich irgendwann in der Nacht ins DGoB-Forum (Christoph)
]
;B[pd]C[joachim [?\]: ich werde morgen wohl mal vorbeischauen
]
;W[dd]
;B[pp]C[hangbeamb: Das Spiel hier ist die Spitzenpartie des Turniers. Der Gewinner hat gute Aussichten, auch das Turnier zu gewinnen.
derPlumps [2d\]: hangbeamb=gerlach?
hangbeamb: morgen gibtB4s z.B auch das kombinierte 13x13/9x9-Turnier
]
;W[dp]C[hangbeamb: ich bin gerade am Laptop, gleich aber auch wieder nicht mehr
derPlumps [2d\]: och naja bisher haben wir auf brett 1 doch sowieso immer nur rudi gesehen, der gewinner ist doch recht klar
joachim [?\]: da kC6nnte ich etwas mitspielen
hangbeamb: eben, ich wede da auch mitspielen
joachim [?\]: komme aber wohl erst nach 11:00 Uhr
hangbeamb: na klar
derPlumps [2d\]: na dann nur noch 15 minutemn+ byo yomi
]
;B[fc]C[hangbeamb: Klaus kommt auch so in dem Dreh
]
;W[hc]
;B[cc]
;W[dc]
;B[cd]
;W[de]
;B[db]
;W[eb]
;B[cb]
;W[ec]
;B[cf]
;W[nq]C[joachim [?\]: ich denk nicht, daC Rudi schon gewonnen hat - Matthias ist stark
derPlumps [2d\]: ich meine nich das spiel sondern das turnier ;)
derPlumps [2d\]: naja, lassen wir uns C<berraschen
hangbeamb: genau, dies hier ist ein offenes Spiel, ich setze auf Matthias
Messeturn [-\]: Meines Wissens sind beide ungeschlagen.
hangbeamb: so ist es
derPlumps [2d\]: verstehe
derPlumps [2d\]: kann ich ja nicht riechen =)
derPlumps [2d\]: hi lene
Deva [?\]: kannst auch nicht vom gegenteil ausgehen ^^
hangbeamb: wC<rden wir euch Loserpartien zeigen? ;)
hangbeamb: (ich bin erst mal weg vom Laptop)
]
;B[pn]
;W[jp]
;B[qj]
;W[nc]
;B[pf]
;W[qc]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]C[Deva [?\]: geht ja ziemlich flott voran
]
;B[ob]C[IlanKeshet [9k\]: finally.
Higanbana [?\]: is it s18 q19 r19?
Higanbana [?\]: but i guess there are no ko threats
]
;W[qb]
;B[oc]
;W[re]C[soeasy [3d\]: there wont be any ko 
Silber [1d\]: s18 q19 r18 , why do u want ko there?
]
;B[nd]
;W[qg]C[SILD [6d?\]: keine schC6ne form
Deva [?\]: das wirds sein
IlanKeshet [9k\]: is this 5d like a 9d here?
derPlumps [2d\]: no
Deva [?\]: not at all
derPlumps [2d\]: this 5d is like 5d
SILD [6d?\]: this 5d is like a hmm.. 4d
]
;B[cn]
;W[fq]
;B[df]
;W[fd]C[IlanKeshet [9k\]: P18 group should gete attacked by w
IlanKeshet [9k\]: I like the idea of doing like M16
IlanKeshet [9k\]: then if N17, M17 in respond and w gains big profit
IlanKeshet [9k\]: what u dans think
SILD [6d?\]: yeah :) if b would answer like this, its good
]
;B[bp]
;W[cq]C[SILD [6d?\]: but he wont
]
;B[dl]C[IlanKeshet [9k\]: so wha does he do then
]
;W[cj]C[IlanKeshet [9k\]: K15?
IlanKeshet [9k\]: if K15, hen w jumps out and puts lots of pressure on black group
SILD [6d?\]: s14 
cnmc [?\]: s14 is bad :\\
TheFall [3k\]: cap dosnt work here?
derPlumps [2d\]: i think he will cap
cnmc [?\]: thats like suicide
derPlumps [2d\]: but cap doesnt kill :)
TheFall [3k\]: lol
SILD [6d?\]: c9 is better
cnmc [?\]: D10
cnmc [?\]: or E10
derPlumps [2d\]: d8 is a little problematic
SILD [6d?\]: (and s14 is great :P)
TheFall [3k\]: isnt c9 a bit submissive`?
cnmc [?\]: s14 is suicide dude
cnmc [?\]: s14 wont do anything for ya
IlanKeshet [9k\]: I predict D10
cnmc [?\]: d10 or e10
peine [3d\]: c9
IlanKeshet [9k\]: e9 no good.. easy for w to escape
cnmc [?\]: why let him escape when it can die ?
derPlumps [2d\]: yes, soft
peine [3d\]: die ?
cnmc [?\]: yep
peine [3d\]: how
IlanKeshet [9k\]: d10
cnmc [?\]: d10 wotn kill it totally
peine [3d\]: the goal i just to reduce
IlanKeshet [9k\]: hurts badly and gains big influence outside
cnmc [?\]: ya
cnmc [?\]: but c9 sont reduce to well
]
;B[ck]
;W[dj]C[peine [3d\]: ahah
TheFall [3k\]: hehe ok^
]
;B[fk]C[peine [3d\]: d10 so bad
cnmc [?\]: remember these are only 5d and 4d :)
peine [3d\]: e10 would have been better
TheFall [3k\]: only lol
MUHAHAHA [2d\]: severe attack now
cnmc [?\]: yep only :)
peine [3d\]: w f12
cnmc [?\]: yes peine
cnmc [?\]: e10 is what i said
cnmc [?\]: and d10
]
;W[fi]C[peine [3d\]: d12
IlanKeshet [9k\]: no... E12
peine [3d\]: lol
]
;B[hj]C[derPlumps [2d\]: what is black's strategy here?
derPlumps [2d\]: invade bottom?
]
;W[ch]C[silver2k4 [3d?\]: o16 wasnt good enabling w r13 
peine [3d\]: good move white
piranha [4k?\]: set stones all around for fun
peine [3d\]: white is nearly alive
IlanKeshet [9k\]: G13
silver2k4 [3d?\]: g12 hurts now
peine [3d\]: w can live
derPlumps [2d\]: white is closed in, i dont like it so much
IlanKeshet [9k\]: g12 too close
piranha [4k?\]: aber nur wenn du den weiterspielst jan^^
silver2k4 [3d?\]: live in gote.. wow
cnmc [?\]: g12
cnmc [?\]: is good
derPlumps [2d\]: any attacks on white's top group for later?
cnmc [?\]: but
silver2k4 [3d?\]: g12  is too good for b
cnmc [?\]: white will live
cnmc [?\]: because og c15
soeasy [3d\]: exchange possible
derPlumps [2d\]: which
liebesleid [1d\]: b15 b14?
piranha [4k?\]: w b15?
soeasy [3d\]: ya, but i think wont turn out this way
]
;B[bg]C[liebesleid [1d\]: b feels ok
]
;W[ff]C[peine [3d\]: humm
peine [3d\]: cutable ?
peine [3d\]: e13
TheFall [3k\]: i go soo slowly from 5-3 kyu , i really wonder what to do to become a dan :( guess iam to old allready lol
TheFall [3k\]: i readed more than most 2-3 dans i bet lol
]
;B[kp]C[derPlumps [2d\]: attack o3 ?
liebesleid [1d\]: hehe
liebesleid [1d\]: cuf f3
TheFall [3k\]: mayn options here or?
derPlumps [2d\]: or build the middle?
peine [3d\]: l4 don't seem good
derPlumps [2d\]: we will see what it wants to do ;)
TheFall [3k\]: sure its not since i like it very much^^
peine [3d\]: what this do 
derPlumps [2d\]: touching
liebesleid [1d\]: l3 m3
liebesleid [1d\]: then wht
]
;W[jq]C[peine [3d\]: oh interesting
derPlumps [2d\]: hmmm
Starwyvern [19k?\]: thats what i thought he would do
derPlumps [2d\]: now black gets his centre
TheFall [3k\]: o4 bad?
TheFall [3k\]: looks funny but
soeasy [3d\]: just simply q2
derPlumps [2d\]: yes, bad
peine [3d\]: n4 maybe
derPlumps [2d\]: L5 is logical here
soeasy [3d\]: l6 or q2
derPlumps [2d\]: or L6, yes
peine [3d\]: q13 big too
derPlumps [2d\]: too early
melchen [4d\]: peine e13 favours white i guess
TheFall [3k\]: l17 becomes big too
TheFall [3k\]: maybe k16 later?
]
;B[ko]C[peine [3d\]: e 13 attack melchen
derPlumps [2d\]: r3 now :)
melchen [4d\]: f12
TheFall [3k\]: f12????
TheFall [3k\]: for w?
derPlumps [2d\]: 4d move ^_^
]
;W[el]
;B[ek]
;W[dk]C[melchen [4d\]: i just answer peine
]
;B[cl]C[peine [3d\]: :o
]
;W[fl]C[peine [3d\]: f12 , f13
TheFall [3k\]: q2!
TheFall [3k\]: now
melchen [4d\]: g13
]
;B[gl]C[peine [3d\]: g14
]
;W[gm]C[melchen [4d\]: try it on board peine =)=
]
;B[hl]C[derPlumps [2d\]: what is white's plan here?
]
;W[bq]C[SuperJohn [2k\]: concquering the universe
derPlumps [2d\]: kill? :)
peine [3d\]: lol
TheFall [3k\]: nah
peine [3d\]: impossible
TheFall [3k\]: e6 sente
TheFall [3k\]: and aji keshi :(
derPlumps [2d\]: not aji keshi
derPlumps [2d\]: must fight
TheFall [3k\]: e5 better?`
TheFall [3k\]: guess not
silver2k4 [3d?\]: d5 
]
;B[do]C[derPlumps [2d\]: nice shape
piranha [4k?\]: nich vorsagen jan ^^
silver2k4 [3d?\]: sorry
]
;W[en]
;B[eo]C[TheFall [3k\]: in die ecke!
piranha [4k?\]: DEN hC$tt ich jetz auch gemacht :P
]
;W[fn]C[derPlumps [2d\]: this looks awful shape for white
silver2k4 [3d?\]: e6 war komisch
derPlumps [2d\]: e4 e3 c4 
piranha [4k?\]: sinnfrei
derPlumps [2d\]: oder f4 
piranha [4k?\]: also e6
TheFall [3k\]: ich wC<rd f4
derPlumps [2d\]: weiC ist so heavy
piranha [4k?\]: heavy beschC$ftigt xD
TheFall [3k\]: schwarz auch irgendwie heavy
silver2k4 [3d?\]: und black ist almost alive
derPlumps [2d\]: mit c4 lebt der schwarz doch leicht, oder
TheFall [3k\]: muss verflixt aufpassen
Raygo [11k\]: guten tag
TheFall [3k\]: mit c4 ja^
piranha [4k?\]: abend
TheFall [3k\]: aber gote
piranha [4k?\]: e4 vorher? <.<
Raygo [11k\]: nicht so gut
]
;B[ep]C[TheFall [3k\]: so wird c4 sente^^
silver2k4 [3d?\]: nix gote :)
Raygo [11k\]: es ist morgen
derPlumps [2d\]: e4 e3 g5 f5 f4 g4 h4 g3 h6 ?
silver2k4 [3d?\]: s wird nicht c4 spielen
TheFall [3k\]: morgen? zeit fC<r nen glas wein
derPlumps [2d\]: s trennt
silver2k4 [3d?\]: jenau
TheFall [3k\]: ok aber wenns hart wird hat er jetzt c3
derPlumps [2d\]: wie, c3?
derPlumps [2d\]: da steht schon einer
silver2k4 [3d?\]: b9 ist auch sente, also keine angst
TheFall [3k\]: c4
derPlumps [2d\]: naja naja b9, darauf ist b12 ganz schC6n hart
]
;W[cp]C[TheFall [3k\]: scharz g5 als nC$chstes?
silver2k4 [3d?\]: man is der schlecht!
derPlumps [2d\]: woah
derPlumps [2d\]: tC6ten???
liebesleid [1d\]: I dont understand w here
derPlumps [2d\]: schwarz e3 - weiC b5 ?
]
;B[eq]
;W[bo]C[derPlumps [2d\]: omg
TheFall [3k\]: trade
SuperJohn [2k\]: g4 big
derPlumps [2d\]: tausche alles gegen nix?
TheFall [3k\]: wieso nichts?
silver2k4 [3d?\]: ja nix nix
derPlumps [2d\]: also b4 zu fangen ist ja nun mal gar nix
Sponge7 [-\]: plumps plumps
derPlumps [2d\]: d4 e4 e3 f3 was ist das fC<r ne form?
derPlumps [2d\]: und rechts steht alles auf kippe
derPlumps [2d\]: da war mal gebiet
TheFall [3k\]: ihr und euer formalismus
TheFall [3k\]: immer wieder diese alten debatten der 20er und 50er
silver2k4 [3d?\]: wir sind ergonomisch korrekt
derPlumps [2d\]: ich denke schwarz g5 reicht
piranha [4k?\]: jan was meinst du welcher zug gut wC$re jetzt
silver2k4 [3d?\]: jeder
silver2k4 [3d?\]: :)
silver2k4 [3d?\]: g3 
derPlumps [2d\]: jeder?
coiote [5k\]: a1 ;)
Deva [?\]: a4 ...
silver2k4 [3d?\]: naja, jeder zug der kommen kC6nnte
piranha [4k?\]: jan sagt g3
piranha [4k?\]: also ist jeder andere zug quatsch
piranha [4k?\]: ausschlussprinzip
derPlumps [2d\]: messeturn kannst du die gesichtsausdrC<cke beschreiben? ;)
]
;B[gq]C[silver2k4 [3d?\]: Rudi = T.T
silver2k4 [3d?\]: mathe = ^_______^
piranha [4k?\]: siehste
piranha [4k?\]: jan hat recht
derPlumps [2d\]: ^_^
piranha [4k?\]: alles andere wC$r auch quatsch gewesen
]
;W[hm]C[Deva [?\]: wow fischi
derPlumps [2d\]: hm, warum g3
silver2k4 [3d?\]: weil w sowieso h7 spielt
derPlumps [2d\]: seltsame form
Messeturn [-\]: Bilder gleich auf Twitter, User Fleymen.
derPlumps [2d\]: oh
derPlumps [2d\]: wie komm ich da ran?
]
;B[il]
;W[fr]C[derPlumps [2d\]: aha, is das rudi oder matthias?
silver2k4 [3d?\]: hast du den link?
derPlumps [2d\]: http://twitpic.com/3z5nj
Messeturn [-\]: Matthias
Messeturn [-\]: mom
TheFall [3k\]: so ihr dans die auf w gemotzt haben, ist schwarz denn sicher?
Starwyvern [19k?\]: g5?
silver2k4 [3d?\]: er muss sein grinsen hinter der hand verstecken
derPlumps [2d\]: ich fand g3 nicht gut
silver2k4 [3d?\]: ja ist er
derPlumps [2d\]: You are now following Fleymen.
derPlumps [2d\]: und was bedutet das?
]
;B[go]C[derPlumps [2d\]: krieg ich jetzt alles per email?
]
;W[hp]C[derPlumps [2d\]: endlich g5 ^^
TheFall [3k\]: w trys to hard?
derPlumps [2d\]: Kill!
Messeturn [-\]: Nein, bekommst du nicht.
silver2k4 [3d?\]: was killn?
]
;B[ho]C[derPlumps [2d\]: weiC ^^ 
derPlumps [2d\]: nein shcwarz
TheFall [3k\]: nein blau
TheFall [3k\]: ahhh
derPlumps [2d\]: ui viel zu rechnen
TheFall [3k\]: go ist kein wC<nschdirwas :P
TheFall [3k\]: gibts eigetnlich einen namen fC<r diese krebsform die immer nix taucht?
TheFall [3k\]: ein taucher der nicht tauch tacuht nix
TheFall [3k\]: j7 j7j j7
silver2k4 [3d?\]: darf ich auch nicht lachen?
TheFall [3k\]: j5?
silver2k4 [3d?\]: j5 f4 
Messeturn [-\]: Bild von Rudi ist jetzt auch da.
TheFall [3k\]: na immerhin lebt dann weiss
TheFall [3k\]: wie sonst?
silver2k4 [3d?\]: wo lebt w?
Messeturn [-\]: http://twitpic.com/3z6e2
TheFall [3k\]: j5 f4 und w verbindet zumindest
TheFall [3k\]: was gibts denn besseres?
silver2k4 [3d?\]: aufgeben
]
;W[im]C[TheFall [3k\]: mensch  bist du ein arroganter schnC6sel
silver2k4 [3d?\]: hane
TheFall [3k\]: hane tC6tet nicht
smogogo [2k\]: j6?
TheFall [3k\]: k5?
]
;B[jo]
;W[jl]C[Pylon [2k\]: j6
TheFall [3k\]: g4
]
;B[gp]
;W[ik]C[Pylon [2k\]: u won ^^
TheFall [3k\]: 3 moves in a row :)
Pylon [2k\]: ^^
Starwyvern [19k?\]: j10?
TheFall [3k\]: l3
TheFall [3k\]: l3 super huge
TheFall [3k\]: bu maybe b schould defend better^
Messeturn [-\]: Time left: Matthias: 23 min, Rudi 47 min
TheFall [3k\]: i would l3 :)
TheFall [3k\]: or m3 even
]
;B[hk]
;W[kq]C[TheFall [3k\]: was miai^^
Clare [1d\]: jee
Clare [1d\]: german people talking in a dutch game 
TheFall [3k\]: g12
]
;B[kj]C[Pylon [2k\]: no dutch game ^^
]
;W[ll]C[TheFall [3k\]: typicall dutch name is rudi^
Pylon [2k\]: black is german
TheFall [3k\]: w not?
Pylon [2k\]: w dutch
TheFall [3k\]: rudi? lol^^
Pylon [2k\]: ^^
TheFall [3k\]: havent expected thia
zr [5k\]: cut at j7
Messeturn [-\]: But the game is played in Germany,  so i would not call it a dutch game.
TheFall [3k\]: no need to cut now
zr [5k\]: right, doesn't work
TheFall [3k\]: *i think*
TheFall [3k\]: sure it works but
Pylon [2k\]: where u wanna cut?
zr [5k\]: would have to j4 or something first
TheFall [3k\]: keeping w is is ok i think
martygo: furst cut than think
TheFall [3k\]: n10
]
;B[hh]C[martygo: black play's it cool
]
;W[nl]C[zr [5k\]: o5 b
zr [5k\]: ?
Starwyvern [19k?\]: l7?
Starwyvern [19k?\]: i was thinking o5
zr [5k\]: L7 i think makes w stronger
]
;B[mp]
;W[mq]C[zr [5k\]: O10 b 
TheFall [3k\]: now l7
TheFall [3k\]: n4 was a ladder breaker
TheFall [3k\]: or?
]
;B[pl]C[Starwyvern [19k?\]: get koinz
]
;W[hq]C[TheFall [3k\]: l7 l7 l7
Messeturn [-\]: http://twitpic.com/3z8d8
Deva [?\]: das sind die beiden?
Messeturn [-\]: jup
Pylon [2k\]: who is the one in white shirt?
Pylon [2k\]: think iv seen him before
]
;B[mk]C[TheFall [3k\]: omg i sov ote for w now
TheFall [3k\]: after i saw this picture
]
;W[ln]
;B[np]C[zr [5k\]: which one is which
Starwyvern [19k?\]: white is the bigger dude
Deva [?\]: because of his hairstyle?
Starwyvern [19k?\]: look at the bowl
Starwyvern [19k?\]: bowls
Starwyvern [19k?\]: i like black in this game
TheFall [3k\]: hmm i dont like hikaru, lord of the rings and other fantasie crap yup^^
TheFall [3k\]: fantasy*
joachim [?\]: The one in the white shirt looks like Malte Kracht
]
;W[oq]C[TheFall [3k\]: gooo rudi!!
]
;B[nn]C[TheFall [3k\]: could someone schout ift for me in meeseturm pls?
Starwyvern [19k?\]: they probably be slapped
Messeturn [-\]: We don't usually shout in the tournament rooms.
Starwyvern [19k?\]: just fart silenetly
zr [5k\]: is this live game?
TheFall [3k\]: o what a pitty :P
zr [5k\]: w j5
]
;W[nm]C[Pylon [2k\]: thx joachim
Messeturn [-\]: Yes, it's a live game.
zr [5k\]: thx
Messeturn [-\]: Yes the guy on the table with the white jacket is Malte Kracht.
TheFall [3k\]: rudsuji needed 
TheFall [3k\]: i cant find :(
TheFall [3k\]: but 5 dan might be able to
Pylon [2k\]: in top group no asian?
zr [5k\]: L6 b
Messeturn [-\]: No asian here. 
Pylon [2k\]: thx
TheFall [3k\]: o9
]
;B[oj]C[TheFall [3k\]: or here
Torpedo10k [12k\]: how many players registered?
]
;W[mn]C[TheFall [3k\]: w dies oO
Messeturn [-\]: About 70
zr [5k\]: n8 b
Torpedo10k [12k\]: thx
]
;B[op]C[Sponge7 [-\]: hahaha
]
;W[on]
;B[no]
;W[pm]
;B[qm]C[Sponge7 [-\]: 5d powerrrr
]
;W[dm]C[TheFall [3k\]: p4 losing move?
]
;B[bn]C[zr [5k\]: w save all with  d4
Komodo [1d\]: k6
]
;W[ol]C[zr [5k\]: ?
zr [5k\]: ?
zr [5k\]: k6 more elegant
Messeturn [-\]: Time: Black 10 minutes, W 40 minutes
]
;B[pk]C[Torpedo10k [12k\]: progressives byoyomi?
]
;W[kk]C[Messeturn [-\]: Nein, aber 20/5 lC$Ct nicht viel Zeit zum Denken.
TheFall [3k\]: maybe b schould k6 soon
smogogo [2k\]: if white libe in gote, it seems that f13 or so will be hard to deal
zr [5k\]: w will break out and win game
TheFall [3k\]: doublesente so
]
;B[lj]C[zr [5k\]: uh what is double sente, i better look that up
TheFall [3k\]: sente for both
zr [5k\]: ok, first to get it is doing well...
TheFall [3k\]: both must awnser or?
]
;W[km]C[TheFall [3k\]: so its ajikeshi, but w will playy it soon anyway
zr [5k\]: n8 b
]
;B[jn]
;W[jm]C[tingyiy [2d\]: w c6 lives
]
;B[ml]
;W[mm]C[zr [5k\]: L6
tingyiy [2d\]: d6
]
;B[kn]C[zr [5k\]: thank you
RalGrad [3d?\]: kinda dead ^^
]
;W[gn]
;B[co]C[tingyiy [2d\]: w d6
Korea4K [2d\]: ??
]
;W[dn]C[TheFall [3k\]: lol
]
;B[ao]C[tingyiy [2d\]: e2
Starwyvern [19k?\]: what was that?
Starwyvern [19k?\]: undo?
TheFall [3k\]: a5 in sente lol
Starwyvern [19k?\]: or misread?
TheFall [3k\]: w lost so much the last 40 min
]
;W[er]C[zr [5k\]: b could have killed with e7
Korea4K [2d\]: G2
]
;B[gr]C[Korea4K [2d\]: G2 sente
]
(;W[dr]C[Korea4K [2d\]: Q2
tingyiy [2d\]: dead
TheFall [3k\]: k16
Starwyvern [19k?\]: c1?
zr [5k\]: tingviy, w has two eyes
TheFall [3k\]: for me w is alive
Korea4K [2d\]: Q2 big
TheFall [3k\]: j15
smogogo [2k\]: f12
TheFall [3k\]: nice follow ups
Korea4K [2d\]: a3
TheFall [3k\]: j15 pls
])
(;W[cr]
;B[pq]C[TheFall [3k\]: o
]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]
;W[os]
;B[eg]C[Korea4K [2d\]: cuted
]
;W[cm]
;B[bm]
;W[bj]
;B[bk]C[liebesleid [1d\]: cant work
liebesleid [1d\]: I mean cant live
]
;W[gh]C[TheFall [3k\]: hmm
TheFall [3k\]: i think its alive
tingyiy [2d\]: w lower right still looks dead to me
tingyiy [2d\]: sorry lower left
TheFall [3k\]: how?
]
;B[hg]C[zr [5k\]: dead like k7 group is dead
TheFall [3k\]: :D
tingyiy [2d\]: k8 is slive
tingyiy [2d\]: k7 is alive
]
;W[gj]C[Starwyvern [19k?\]: he was being sarcastic
TheFall [3k\]: sure d2 too
Starwyvern [19k?\]: i think
zr [5k\]: exactement
liebesleid [1d\]: I guess they are joking
Starwyvern [19k?\]: l8 and f7 eyes
Korea4K [2d\]: F13 better
zr [5k\]: lysdexic carsastic
TheFall [3k\]: and c10 alive too
TheFall [3k\]: you dans do to much virtual kill
Korea4K [2d\]: no answer
Starwyvern [19k?\]: it gets you points
Korea4K [2d\]: f13 
Starwyvern [19k?\]: to attack to near death
TheFall [3k\]: really? :P
zr [5k\]: if be gets moyo over at k16 game over
tingyiy [2d\]: b2 and w is dead
]
;B[gk]
;W[hi]
;B[ij]
;W[ii]C[zr [5k\]: i don't think so
TheFall [3k\]: seki?
Messeturn [-\]: Black enters ByoYomi
zr [5k\]: b2 then what
tingyiy [2d\]: you sthould answer, not me
Starwyvern [19k?\]: 20 moves / 5 minutes u said?
TheFall [3k\]: a3 for seki?
TheFall [3k\]: a2 for ko?
zr [5k\]: right :)
Messeturn [-\]: yes
zr [5k\]: i don't see kill after b2 
]
;B[jj]C[tingyiy [2d\]: you mean to say b b2 then w pass? :-)
]
;W[jh]C[TheFall [3k\]: what b did???
TheFall [3k\]: hes crazy!!
Korea4K [2d\]: E11
zr [5k\]: b2 , w a3 , w life
Kimas [10k\]: what he did?
Pylon [2k\]: really bad result for b
karaklis [8k?\]: seems a huge loss for black
melmak: thrown away
Travis [-\]: zr, he's saying pick a move after b2 and he'll find the variation to kill
Korea4K [2d\]: E11 ko
tingyiy [2d\]: b2 a3 then b f1 kill
Starwyvern [19k?\]: wtf?
TheFall [3k\]: a2 is ko a3 is seki
]
(;B[fj]
;W[ej]
;B[ei]
;W[eh]
;B[gi])
(;B[ei]
;W[ej]
;B[fj]
;W[eh]
;B[gi]
;W[fh]C[Chilltime [4k\]: who won?
TheFall [3k\]: w now
melmak: w
TheFall [3k\]: b messed up
Korea4K [2d\]: F13
zr [5k\]: no , tv is right, 
zr [5k\]: f1 kills
Kimas [10k\]: its over?
TheFall [3k\]: f1 e1 seki
Korea4K [2d\]: now cut
tingyiy [2d\]: e1 won't help b has d3
TheFall [3k\]: sorry c2
]
(;B[jd]C[Korea4K [2d\]: oo
]
;W[ic]C[karaklis [8k?\]: finally!
]
;B[id]C[TheFall [3k\]: threatens 2 eyes
TheFall [3k\]: e1 later
Pylon [2k\]: i say w alive in any case if b2 xD
TheFall [3k\]: i still see seki b2 a3 f1 c2 b1 e1
Messeturn [-\]: Sorry, too fast
Messeturn [-\]: I lost them.
TheFall [3k\]: nooo pls _P
Usb [-\]: lol
Usb [-\]: :P
Pylon [2k\]: c2 not good in your solution
Pylon [2k\]: better b1
zr [5k\]: ok, b2, then w a2 looks like w life
]
;W[jc]C[tingyiy [2d\]: b2 a3 f1 c2 c1
])
(;B[id]
;W[ic]
;B[jd]
;W[jc]
;B[kd]C[zr [5k\]: or is it ko?
]
;W[kc]
(;B[le]
;W[ld]C[abcha: yes w cannot play a3 
Pylon [2k\]: alive
muellparty [3d\]: f13 makes this ko BIG
]
;B[ih]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[dq]
;B[fs]
;W[bs]C[Pylon [2k\]: so wasnt alive it seems ^^
EricM [2d\]: ???
Korea4K [2d\]: ?
TheFall [3k\]: b2 a3 fi c2 c1 b1 still seki^
]
;B[lf]
;W[md]
;B[ji]C[TheFall [3k\]:  b cant ignore b1
]
;W[fg]
;B[gg]C[abcha: you just take on a1
]
;W[me]C[Pylon [2k\]: g13??
TheFall [3k\]: e1 after
]
;B[gf]
;W[hf]C[TheFall [3k\]: seki shapr or?
Matze [2d\]: ???
TheFall [3k\]: w is connected
Pylon [2k\]: moves quite strange now ^^
Matze [2d\]: this the move?
zr [5k\]: that depends on whether he plays b4 or after lol about hwole situation
]
;B[is]
;W[ge]C[muellparty [3d\]: editor lost track i think
Travis [-\]: b2 a3 f1 c2 e1, dead
Matze [2d\]: lol`?
joachim [?\]: the scribe tries to catch up to the board position i guess
]
;B[pg]
;W[qf]
;B[rg]
;W[rf]
;B[qh]
;W[rd]
;B[qd]C[Korea4K [2d\]: ^^
zr [5k\]: laugh out loud or little old lady take your pick
zr [5k\]: m2 looking good
]
;W[rr]C[zr [5k\]: for b
]
;B[rq]
;W[qs]
;B[qq]
;W[mf]
;B[lg]
;W[mg]
;B[pe]
;W[oe]
;B[rh]
;W[oh]
;B[ph]C[jayjolin [1k?\]: why p15..
]
;W[jr]
;B[he]
;W[nb]
;B[na]C[TheFall [3k\]: close game?
Messeturn [-\]: I think that's the board position.
]
;W[mb]
;B[gd]
;W[fe]
;B[hd]
;W[gc]
;B[mh]
;W[nh]
;B[mi]
;W[sf]
;B[js]
;W[ks]
;B[hr]
;W[ir]
;B[hs]C[TheFall [3k\]: n11 was bad since b has m9 sente?
]
;W[ip]C[TheFall [3k\]: schould it have been o11?
Pylon [2k\]: n11 necessary
Pylon [2k\]: else m12
]
;B[om]
;W[ak]C[jayjolin [1k?\]: ........
TheFall [3k\]: o this side right
]
;B[bl]
;W[pm]C[TheFall [3k\]: no m12 would have done nohing
jayjolin [1k?\]: = ="
]
;B[of]
;W[nf]
;B[om]
;W[sg]
;B[sh]
;W[pm]C[TheFall [3k\]: k9
Pylon [2k\]: n19
]
;B[jk]
;W[lk]
;B[om]C[monboubou [-\]: for the yose, what about m2 ?
monboubou [-\]: is it big ?
TheFall [3k\]: no
TheFall [3k\]: its a ko threat
]
;W[rs]
;B[sr]C[muellparty [3d\]: 4points
monboubou [-\]: 4 points, uh... gote
monboubou [-\]: not bad at all
Pylon [2k\]: i like n19 best at the moment
jayjolin [1k?\]: ....
]
;W[ps]
;B[lr]
;W[lq]
;B[kr]
;W[mr]C[TheFall [3k\]: iam drunk?
]
;B[ls]C[Batavia [4k\]: what are the requirements for a game to be hotlisted on kgs?
]
;W[ms]
;B[ks]
;W[bh]C[TheFall [3k\]: to know about the rules of go a bit?
]
;B[pa]
;W[qa]
;B[oa]
;W[ag]
;B[af]
;W[ah]C[TheFall [3k\]: n19 now
]
;B[ef]
;W[dg]
;B[ea]
;W[fa]
;B[da]C[TheFall [3k\]: o k n19 not urgent
]
;W[]C[TheFall [3k\]: w must m18 anyway
Pylon [2k\]: both have 2 wins so far?
Torpedo10k [12k\]: b actually gained some points during yose
]
;B[ap]
;W[aq]
;B[ma]
;W[la]C[TheFall [3k\]: ???
Pylon [2k\]: hm? ^^
]
;B[ni]
;W[al]
;B[am]
;W[aj]C[TheFall [3k\]: that crap
TheFall [3k\]: i doubt
]
;B[oi]
;W[ng]C[derPlumps [2d\]: b+15 ?
SakuraH [13k?\]: jup
derPlumps [2d\]: white killed his game with the action in the bottom left
TheFall [3k\]: this board isnt correct
Messeturn [-\]: Sorry, they play to fast for me.
derPlumps [2d\]: m18 omg?
derPlumps [2d\]: dont worry
karaklis [8k?\]: yeah m18
Messeturn [-\]: I tried to catch up.
TheFall [3k\]: its fine
derPlumps [2d\]: not needful if moves are missing
Messeturn [-\]: but I stop the transmission here.
derPlumps [2d\]: just ask them who won here
joachim [?\]: please B14 M18
karaklis [8k?\]: what a pity
SakuraH [13k?\]: c5 ist dead on the real board?
TheFall [3k\]: no
Pylon [2k\]: congrats to matthias! :)
Messeturn [-\]: Black wins with 12 .5 points.
Torpedo10k [12k\]: thanks!
joachim [?\]: Gratulation an Matthias
joachim [?\]: weiter so :-)
Pylon [2k\]: hat matthias 3 siege nun?
silver2k4 [3d?\]: ja
Pylon [2k\]: super :)
hangbeamb: morgen so ab 10:15 geht es weiter mit der Cbertragung der 4. Runde
])
(;B[pg]
;W[gj]
;B[dq]
;W[dr]
;B[gi]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[gj]
;B[fs]
;W[bs]
;B[gi]
;W[ld]
;B[le]
;W[gj]
;B[qd]
;W[rd]
;B[gi]
;W[hf]
;B[ih]
;W[gj]
;B[em]
;W[fm]
;B[gi]
;W[md]
;B[ji]
;W[me]
;B[lf]
;W[mf]
;B[lg]
;W[mg]
;B[is]
;W[rr]
;B[rq]
;W[qs]
;B[qq]
;W[jr]
;B[gf]
;W[ge]
;B[gg]
;W[fg]
;B[he]
;W[nb]
;B[na]
;W[mb]
;B[rg]
;W[qf]
;B[qh]
;W[rf]
;B[rh]
;W[oe]
;B[pe]
;W[oh]
;B[ph]
;W[sf]
;B[gd]
;W[fe]
;B[hd]
;W[gc]
;B[mh]
;W[nh]
;B[mi]
;W[bh]
;B[js]
;W[ks]
;B[hr]
;W[ir]
;B[hs]
;W[ip]
;B[om]
;W[ak]
;B[bl]
;W[pm]
;B[of]
;W[nf]
;B[om]
;W[sg]
;B[sh]
;W[pm]
;B[jk]
;W[lk]
;B[om]
;W[rs]
;B[sr]
;W[pm]
;B[lr]
;W[lq]
;B[kr]
;W[mr]
;B[ls]
;W[ms]
;B[ks]
;W[om]
;B[po]
;W[oi]
;B[pi]
;W[nk]
;B[mj]
;W[aq]
;B[ap]
;W[ma]
;B[oa]
;W[ag]
;B[af]
;W[ah]
;B[pa]
;W[qa]
;B[ni]
;W[ng]
;B[ea]
;W[fa]
;B[da]
;W[dg]
;B[ef]
;W[ee]
;B[ad]
;W[al]
;B[am]
;W[aj]
;B[es]
;W[ds]
;B[gs])))))
